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August 18, 2010 at 11:16 pm #2892
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KeymasterDear April, I have already consulted you a couple of times before, and I always find myself seeking for your advice whenever I’ve ran out of fuel and don’t know what’s going on. I’m 17 and so is the girl I love. We’ve been best friends for about 2 years now and I’ve loved her for around a year and a bit. She has always been very flirty and goes to ‘disco parties’ every single week. Every now and then, therefore, she ends up kissing some guy.
She knows I love her very much, but she is still very comfortable when talking to me. In March of this year, she was very drunk and told me she liked me. Yet a week afterwards she said she didn’t mean it at all and started seeing this other boy. A month later she kissed another boy (they weren’t in a serious relationship). Now she hasn’t been seeing anyone since the beginning of April. I know she doesn’t like me. The last her friend has told me is that she thinks of me too much as a friend. Also, I only get the opportunity of seeing her at school as I don’t really like going to ‘disco parties’. Asking her out is not a possibility; I don’t think she’d like to and then it’d be awkward for her as she knows there are second intentions involved.
Yet she always looks at me with her honey, hazel brown eyes with the sweetest look and, April, it melts my heart. Yesterday our hands touched unintentionally and they lingered on for a few seconds. She seems to take in everything I say and her perennial good mood is so uplifting. Yet she has always been ‘silly’ in her own sweet way – she isn’t like that only to me, but she is much more to me than to others. I’m always telling her off because she doesn’t really do anything productive with her life. What I want to know, April, is: is there any possibility I can make her stop thinking of me too much as a friend without blatantly flirting with her? Maybe being affectionate in a reserved way? And if yes, is there anyway this can be achieved at school? I never meet her out of school – I’m too embarassed to ask her out, she is always going out with all her friends and she’d know I was asking her out on a date if I did. I’m sure you’ll be honest with me April.
Thanks a lot,
HeathcliffAugust 19, 2010 at 2:37 pm #15323April Masini
KeymasterThe only way things may change is if YOU change. If you continue doing and behaving the way you are, there’s no reason to believe she’ll change her feelings about you. However, if you can get over your embarrassment and face your fear of rejection, she may see you as a different kind of young man. Women like men who are confident and make them feel good about themselves. If she likes to go to disco parties, then why don’t you go — for her? If you are going to put yourself ahead of her, you’re going to stay in this rut, but men who understand that sometimes you have to put the woman first, end up winning in relationships. If she knows you’re going to these disco parties for her, she may think more of you.
So my advice is that you start changing your own behavior and getting out of your comfort zone — and into hers.
Let me know how that works for you — and please join me on Facebook. I’d really like to have you as a member of AskApril.com on Facebook. Here’s the link:
.[url]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110265355684755&ref=mf [/url] 🙂 August 19, 2010 at 6:03 pm #14681crazed-driver
ParticipantI don’t 100% with that. Well just the bit about going to these parties as going somewhere that you don’t enjoy will only make you sad and you don’t want her to see that do you? Maybe offer her to meet up before/afterwards. Maybe you can plan it, so you share a lift home/or going out to wherever it is you’re going and even plan it, so you end up going to where she is with your mates without her even knowing. She’ll porbably ask you and your friends to join her. That way you both see everything each other has to offer and when after a few times, then ask her out properly or even make a move/gesture. Remember though, laughter is key to winning her round. August 22, 2010 at 10:34 am #15126April Masini
KeymasterSorry, [b]crazed-driver[/b] , but although I usually agree with you, this time I have to differ!😉 She needs to see him doing things differently because the way she sees him now isn’t going to get him a date — or her attention as more than a friend. If she flirts at parties, and you don’t want him to go because it will make him sad😯 , then I’d suggest that he’s going to become a victim of his own emotions and the guy who doesn’t get the girl. Again. And that’s not what I want for him.What he feels when he sees her flirting with other guys is disappointment because she isn’t flirting with HIM! It’s not so much her behavior that is bumming him out, but the OBJECTS of her behavior. Use that disappointment (or if you want to call it sadness) as a catalyst to change behavior.
Although this isn’t a serious, life threatening problem, often people need to feel uncomfortable ENOUGH to change their own behavior. Ignoring uncomfortable situations or avoiding them or anesthetizing them to not feel that feeling that is a valuable tool, is a loss. If a guy loses enough girls, he may eventually want to do something about HIMSELF and HIS game, rather than sigh that all women dislike him. (Same for women, too!) The people who look in the mirror and say, today is the day I’m going to do things differently to improve my life, are the people who win — with women or otherwise!
🙂 August 22, 2010 at 1:27 pm #15398crazed-driver
ParticipantI thought by changing behaviour. You meant, act a certain way, etc. Not change your hobbies. August 23, 2010 at 11:32 pm #15608April Masini
KeymasterAbsolutely, he has to change his behavior. Women love men with confidence and direction. Facing fear and not being afraid to face rejection in life is actually sexy to women. He’s got to win her over by not being afraid to get shot down — but hopefully, he won’t be! Women want a man who will take care of them — even if they are the most competent women in the world, the reality is they still want that knight in shining armor on a steed, riding in to take over. The more he (or you) or any guy can be that man isn’t afraid to try and win the woman over, the more luck he’ll have with that woman.
August 24, 2010 at 4:42 am #15641crazed-driver
ParticipantSo it is possible to do all that in a place where he feels comfortable. For example at a place he likes best? As happyness can lead to confidance August 24, 2010 at 4:43 pm #15627April Masini
Keymaster[b]Crazed-driver[/b] , you have to see that getting out of your comfort zone is the only way to build self esteem and win with women. You seem very protective of this guy’s feelings, but it’s a lot more important for him to take action and not become a victim of his feelings.Read Date Out of Your League (you, especially, will really benefit from it) to learn what women want and how to get and keep them! Here’s the link for that book:
.[url]http://www.askapril.com/relationship-dating-advice/date-out-of-your-league.html [/url] As long as you — or he — only does what makes you comfortable or happy, you’re never going to get the girl who is worth chasing and fighting battles for. Men love winning, but there is no win without a chase or a fight.
I hope that helps and that you’ll finally take my advice and read this book!
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.[url]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110265355684755&ref=mf [/url] August 25, 2010 at 9:35 pm #15576crazed-driver
Participant[quote=”April Masini”][b]Crazed-driver[/b] , You seem very protective of this guy’s feelings, but it’s a lot more important for him to take action and not become a victim of his feelings.[color=#0000FF]you have to see that getting out of your comfort zone is the only way to build self esteem and win with women.[/color] Read Date Out of Your League (you, especially, will really benefit from it) to learn what women want and how to get and keep them! Here’s the link for that book:
.[url]http://www.askapril.com/relationship-dating-advice/date-out-of-your-league.html [/url] As long as you — or he — only does what makes you comfortable or happy, you’re never going to get the girl who is worth chasing and fighting battles for. Men love winning, but there is no win without a chase or a fight.
I hope that helps and that you’ll finally take my advice and read this book!
Please join me on Facebook, too. Here’s that link:
.[url]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110265355684755&ref=mf [/url] [/quote] I gathered that. But surely its possible to do it and end up enjoying it after. For example a man wouldnt take a woman to a soccer match on their first date would they as they dont like it a much as men. (Well most dont). So surely a guy can take a woman somewhere that they will both enjoy doing that activity when out of their comfort zone
😕 Saying that do you mean comfort zone as in feelings or location? With feelings i totally agree with you see and the guy should be more forward/flirty/entertaining etc. But surely the surroundings have to be right first😕 August 26, 2010 at 10:31 am #15599April Masini
KeymasterIn response to your question, I meant feelings and location. If you read Date Out of Your League, you’ll understand what it takes to get the girl and why winning her over is more important than feeling temporarily uncomfortable. In fact, the discomfort only comes from not having confidence to deal with different situations, and the only way to overcome that lack of confidence is to face those situations.
😀 Please buy this book! Here’s the link:[url]http://www.askapril.com/relationship-dating-advice/date-out-of-your-league.html [/url] August 26, 2010 at 6:06 pm #15651crazed-driver
ParticipantI understand the feelings aspect totally before you explained it, but I didn’t get what you meant by location. I guess they’re are two sides to that part of it, one being what you just said and one being that if the date is in a mutual place of they’re liking then it gives both of them the opportunity to shine. I suppose what I’m trying to say is after hearing what you said about the location, there is no right answer and its down to the individual. August 27, 2010 at 2:23 pm #15632April Masini
KeymasterI don’t think you buy into my premise that men chase women and feel great about themselves when they win them. If you did, you wouldn’t argue with me so much! This is the basis for my relationship advice and you’ll probably see it over and over again in this forum. If this guy wants a woman and she frequents a disco, then it would serve him to show up at the disco and try to win her over.
[i]You[/i] are very committed to a man feeling comfortable and you miss the point that being comfortable is not always part of man’s job. In fact, if he wants to win her over, he’s going to have to chase her, and that means occasionally stepping out of his comfort zone because he feels she is worth it — and more importantly, that win is important to him as a man.Of course there will be mutual fun times and mutually agreed upon fun venues, but while a man is chasing a woman trying to win her over, he should do just that — go to the disco where he knows she will be and do his best to get her!
Giving them both “an opportunity to shine”
😕 is not what dating is about. If you read Date Out of Your League, as I’ve recommended to you over and over, you’ll understand how to get and keep a woman. Here’s the link: . Buy it. Read it. The questions you’re asking me will all be answered there as you understand better what my advice and success theory in dating is all about![url]http://www.askapril.com/relationship-dating-advice/date-out-of-your-league.html [/url] -
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